If you didn't have your sets tuned to CBS Saturday afternoon, then you missed a heck of a performance by one of New York's (Harlem) own Jeremy Hazell, who is notoriously known all over the Apple as the Cabby or the Cab Driver.
He was originally named the "Haitian Cab Driver" by Kingdome announcer Taz at the Showboat Classic a few years back. I remember when I witnessed the Cabby make the game look too easy. It was like conjoined twins with a basketball at birth.
On Saturday, he showed the world he can ball for real as he scored 40 points and grabbed seven boards on national television. If Cabby continues to play the way he has been, I think he has a chance to go NBA lottery pick. What do you guys think?
Watch Hazell get real clutch at the end of the game in the clip above and don't forget to add Bounce Magazine on twitter by clicking right here.
December 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
40 Cal says:
Look at how Cabby just pulls the Jumper from what I would call the parking lot. That was little beyond NBA range!
December 27th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
jaysmoove says:
40,
Hazell is the truth he makes Seton hall a more dangerous team out there in the big east. Jay williams praised hazell kept comparing that 12-2 run hazell was apart of to that 1 minute miracle he had when he was at duke. some how I can see them in the Big Dance if they can get 11 or 12 conf. Wins and make a deep Big East tourney run. If he declares i can see him going in the first round.
December 27th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
True balla says:
2nd round, and definitely make a roster. His age will scare scouts
December 28th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Russ says:
I don’t know..4 of 19? only one game we will see what happens the rest of the year.
December 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
fan says:
Age has nothing to due with talent. If you could play he could ball anywhere. Only one game. Some people couldn’t score 30 if you let him. He’s a unique scorer and in the mold of a Sam Young & better. He’s tall & lanky and plays in the Big East. Nuff said.
He’s a 1st round talent & if he were at a better school. Namely a UCONN or Kansas he’d be lottery. The scouts which ones are you talking about. The Knicks group because they’re scared of all real talent. Especially if your from their own city. He could play 3 positions in the league. This is his second yr of killing like this. He scores 50 & 60 in pro tournaments. He could have been in the league had people really known basketball & discovered him earlier. I’d say it’s their fault not his. He’s been this talented that past few yrs. He didn’t just come onto the scene.
December 28th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Trevor Kapp says:
i like hazell a lot, but he needs to be the man on his team to be effective. he needs a lot of shots to score, and i don’t really see him making anyone better. i know he’s a flat-out scorer and he doesn’t play with the most talented guys around him, but he’s averaging 1.7 assists this year and averaged .9 his freshman & sophomore campaigns. again, i realize that if he played for a better team he wouldn’t have to take as many shots, but right now all he’s shown is that he can score the ball, which quite frankly, any nba prospect can do.
December 28th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Elliot Rosado says:
He’s going to be like the kid Meeks from Kentucky. NBA player for sure, but late first round early second round pick.
December 28th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Trevor Kapp says:
elliot- meeks is the perfect comparison for hazell. if jeremy went to creighton or illinois state, we wouldn’t be talking about him. nbadraft.net and draftexpress don’t have him getting selected this year or next year. i think that’s a little harsh, and he’ll get picked next year in the second round, but lottery pick this year?? ridiculous.
December 28th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Ramon Diaz says:
41 points says it all. Sad they lost that game though.
December 28th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
fan says:
@Trevor & Elliot
There isn’t that much talent in college for you to say Hazell being lottery is ridiculous. At this state & him playing in one of the best conferences it warrants a shot or look. You answered your own question. Meeks isn’t able to prove his worth although he should have stayed. He’s undersized and can’t handle the ball. If Hazell was in a different system & asked or needed to other things I’m sure he’d fit in well. What’s the difference between him and Xavier Henry. Let me guess I’m nuts. He’s the future and the bread & butter of the Kansas team. Like Mario Chalmers was the best guard Kansas had when Collins was always their best ball handler or go 2 in the clutch. Guess what he’s still in college. I really think the people who hold the highest opinions of talent have got to be revamped.
The way I see you guys for the most part are wrong for the most part. You don’t judge talent well because lots of times they never played the sport. Wathching & playing are entirely different. I don’t care if you have a degree on statistics. Also I don’t care what you did or where you played. Nobody is good enough now a days & everyone has flaws. Hell the N.B.A. & college are full of overatted bums. Just because a known person or analyst cosigns they’re automatically qualified or more pro ready. Give me a break. I wish Jeremy wasn’t from N.Y. and was from Idaho. He’d be the best thing walking. It’s crazy how easily your game can be discredited by word of mouth. I’m guessing all of your opinions are right on. Have you ever been wrong about a prospect?
Case in point the players from the Florida Gators back to back. Who would have thought Horford would pan out better than both Noah or Green. Also why do scouts believe Scottie Reynolds is a pro. Even better yet why is Lance Stephenson so low on the draft board?
December 28th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Sean Couch says:
Hazell –
One of the things Hazell can do is defend. He has excellent defensive anticipation with solid lateral speed and strong athleticism.
If he’s putting in extra work at Seton Hall with a strong after-practice regimen, I would look at him at the bottom of the first round.
He could move up with a solid NCAA showing and if he comes to summer camp and locks himself him in the gym after every practice he could surprise and become a solid 2 in the league.
He has a natural scoring flow that should not be underestimated, he should make the league.
December 28th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Casey Lee says:
I agree with Sean…being able to defend (especially coming out of NYC) is key to prove to NBA scouts that he has what it takes on both sides of the ball.
The big issue or challenge rather will be Hazell’s team. If Seton Hall can make a run and do some damage in the NCAA Tourney (if they make it..), then Hazell could be an easy investment in the second round or late first round and be a sleeper pick!
December 29th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Elliot Rosado says:
@ fan, I’ll be waiting for you in June to tell me & Trevor that we were right. Playing or watching doesn’t matter. Xavier Henry is a lottery pick because he’s better than Cabbie and he’s only 18, Do the math. And where did you play at?
December 29th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
fan says:
You guys might be right with your opinions deflecting his talent. I hope all the players you guys like make it. All the NYC kids should move out of state or go overseas from now. They’d stand a better chance of making. No one plays defense in the league anymore. It’s structured for free flowing offense. A persons school should’nt determine his draft position. Bums play on national championship teams and win consistently in college. Also you probably know someone I don’t that has the power to spread a good or negative word around the league. Too bad Cabbie Elliot & Trevor say nay. Hey at least Sean & Casey Lee see something. It’s 2 2. Your even now. Yeah Xavier Henry is unbelievable,great & only 18. He has no position in the league & has the benefit of playing on a very good team & program. We’ll see though. Where I played has nothing to do with knowledge of the game.
Why is being from NYC such a bad thing. What did we do to receive such partial treatment. Danny Granger/Sebastian Telfair/AJ Price/ are good but they aren’t close to being NY’s best.
Who ever is in charge or runs NYC basketball has to do something to help our kids fundamentally & politically. It’s almost over. Who do we have coming up? I spoke to someone the other day that is more than deserving & should be in the league. He’s so fed up with the politics he could care less about the sport. Andre Barrett being cut for Koby Carl(Cavailers) is one of the examples of the politcal ruins of the league. KOBY CARL WHY NOT JUST PUT HIM ON THE NUGGETS. You might as well hire your whole family with no experience for any position. Is Koby Carl better than James White? Should Will Bynum have had to play in the D League? Is Chris Duhon better than 3 of the best NYC has to offer?
The one thing a NYC product has that you cant teach is being BATTLE TESTED. Is Scottie Reynolds better than Corey Fisher or Malcolm Grant? If Lance wasn’t a city kid he wouldn’t have such a bad rap. Typecasting players ins’t good for the growth of the game.
December 29th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
40 cal says:
Fan it’s actually 3-2 lol, I been vouching for Cabby all week.
December 29th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Elliot Rosado says:
If it was up to me Cabbie would be the number 1 pick, i love my New York ball players but you have to be realistic when talking about the N.B.A. That’s why i say people ues the term pro to loosely. I’m still trying to figure out how the hell Reggie Freeman (Texas) led the nation in scoring and turned out better than Felipe Lopez and still didn’t get drafted. This has been going on for a while now.
December 29th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
fan says:
@40 my bad you’re right it’s 5-1 Elliot came back over. LOL. I hear you. Reggie Hi Five Freeman was Michael Redd w/ some other stuff from the NYC. Destroying in the Big 12 when it was murder. He was blackballed I believe from either his agent or some other nonsense in camp. It had nothing to do with his talent. Probably because he had that stigma of being from the inner city of NY. Had a great career overseas but could have did wonders for many N.B.A. teams. Problem. Check. We all have come to know how the L does. Felipe put us under the bus to with him flopping in the league.
Who’s going to be the next NY’er to break the stereotype & pave the way for others & our upcoming generation? I’m really worried. Reggie Freeman(PRO)
December 29th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Elliot Rosado says:
@ fan, You have to read my first comment i never said Cabbie wasn’t a pro, I said he was low first round or early second round. New York hasn not had an impact player in the N.B.A. since Rod Strickland, Chris Mullin, Ron Artest. The guy’s were debating about now are borderline N.B.A. players. Borderline meaning 10th, 11th, or 12th man. Look at Danny Green he’s better than Cabbie and never comes off Clevland’s bench.
December 29th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
funkalot says:
Fellas,
You all make interesting points, about Cabbie. I hope he makes it. He is borderline 1st round and a definite 2nd round pick. If he makes first team all Big East and is top three in the Big East Player of the year voting, his stature becomes elevated.
The real question raised, by Fan and touched upon by Elliot is: Who is Next? I do not see too many impact players from NYC coming to the “L”, anytime soon. Jeremy, Sylven, Lance, Corey and Trevon are all nice, but not impact players, for the “L”.
Elliot you forgot about Sunshine Noah, Lamar Odom,Kenny Anderson, Jamal Mashburn,Skip, Jamal Tinsley, Stephon Marbury as recent impact ballers from NYC, but the horizon seems bleak.
Maybe NYC ballers should appear on Milk Cartons, as missing. LOL.
December 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Elliot Rosado says:
Funkalot, You right it’s hard to say who’s next. especially when a lot of New York kids don’t even want to stay home for highschool anymore. N.Y. is flooded at the college level but it seems like you get penalized for staying all 4 years these days. There’s an 8th grader from Brooklyn by the name of Isiah Whitehead he’s the next one. Ask Ricky Rivers (Funsport)about him.
December 29th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
fan says:
@ Elliot I live in Long Island and watch Danny green play at Island Garden & also saw him at St Mary’s. If you think Jeremy Hazell isn’t better than him. I’m actually kind of speechless. It’s your opinion but a bad one in my eye. You say this because what age,school,accolades? Or even because he got drafted. I’m happy for him & his family but he’s not a pro or a NBA player. Yes he can help some teams but his game has not 1 strength. He got better every year at NC and became one of their better well rounded players. Even Ty Lawson has showed signs of him not being able to be a full fledge starter in this league.
Also Ben Gordon,Charlie V & Sebastian,Smush have had very good careers thus far(Sorry If I left out anybody). They’re still young & have played for sub par teams. Which in turn means their careers are at crossroads. Garnett was a monster his whole career. It took that one Championship for the masses to respect his game. DUMB TO ME. But hey who am I?
December 29th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
funkalot says:
Elliot,
A few years back there was a kid named Winston Mcleod who was supposed to be next and suddenly disappeared. He ran with Jayvaughn Pinkston in AAU, while Jay was an 8th grader and Winston a 7th. Can you track him down?
Oh, and you are correct about kids staying in NY or other major cities during their prep years. In the Bean, the siphoning off of our cream has severely weakened our Public School leagues, as it has in other metropolises.
I have to place blame with the Public Schools’ inability to educate kids at an adequate level, maintain high standards and become more creative in educational design constructs, across America. So, I can not hate
I know in NYC everything is magnified and the NBA is the penultimate for B-ball recognition, but you have plenty of youngmen getting a free education and an opportunity to attain a higher quality of life than most of their brethren,it is a beautiful thing.
So, let us not lose sight of what is really important and the Dre Barrett’s and others ekeing out a good living playing professionally homeside or abroad is not a bad thing.
The lottery ticket is the free ride to a college and a degree, with a professional career as the bonus. Let us not get it twisted!
December 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Elliot Rosado says:
@ Fan, I feel what you saying but think about this, If Danny had gone to Seton Hall he would avg 25ppg. And would have been drafted in the same spot but when being evealuated by N.B.A. scouts you cant deny the fact that he is battled test and that’s b/c he has played in some very big games during his career at N.C. Let’s just say Cabbie is better than Danny Green, When was the last time you’ve seen Seton Hall & Cabbie play a big game with anything on the line. Stephen Curry would be just a high scoring guard at a mid major if not for the run he had in the NCAA tournament. Cabbie needs to make one of those runs. @ Funkalot, Winston is a barber now. SMH! I never thought he was that good to begin with.
December 29th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
funkalot says:
Elliot,
Winston a barber? He is only 17 or 18 years of age. The NYC hype machine and major recruiting circles had him ranked high, including NYC Hoops who had him as the no.1 NYC seventh grader in 2006. I have never seen him play and only read anecdotally about his exploits.
December 29th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
funkalot says:
Elliot,
Please consider the following: Cabbie is better than every wing player at UNC, right now. You put him on that squad and they would be favorite to possibly repeat. He would be UNC’s go to guy,at this moment, given their dearth of scoring.
Jeremy would have gotten major burn at UNC last year and probably scored as well, if not better than Danny Green. Danny is not an explosive type player, he is a solid player. He could not give you what Jeremy potentially does scoring wise.
The question is does Cabbie’s game project better than Danny’s on the pro level. Tough call. I think they are both role players starting out, with Jeremy having an edge because of his scoring ability and size as a legit 2 guard in the League.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Trevor Kapp says:
i don’t think it means a thing if hazell’s first team all big east. i went to marquette my first two years of college and watched jerel mcneal dominate. he was the conference’s player of the year as a sophomore. last year, he averaged 20 per and was first team all-conference and second team all-america. jerel didn’t even get picked. guys like hazell are a dime a dozen. he’s not better than danny green, he’s not better than jodie meeks. the ny bias on this site is out of control.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Trevor Kapp says:
and funk, i go to unc now, and hazell isn’t nearly the solution to the problem. he’s a high volume shooter, and the team doesn’t need that. i’d take wesley johnson on the team no doubt, or a steadier point guard than larry drew II, but they don’t need a guy who’s gonna jack up 18 shots.
i’m not tryin to hate on jeremy at all– he’s a good player, but people on this site overrate him so much cause he’s from ny.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:04 am
funkalot says:
Trevor,
He would conform to their system and get out on the wing and score better than Will Graves or Marcus Ginyard. Larry and Dexter both push the ball but do not have many options for finishing plays. Cabbie could definitely help them out.
Danny Green is mediocre at best and destined for overseas and Jerrel McNeal was a 2 in a 1’s body , so he had no position for the “L”. CAbbie’s size gives him a legit shot at playing 2 in the “L”. He, also, should not be penalized for having the green light in a system and on a team which needs him to score. He is simply following his coaches edict. Making Big East First team does have cache for NBA consideration. It simply broadens your exposure. Now making it is another question and as has been pointed out earlier, there are a multitude of politics which come into play. So who is to say what will happen, a lot of luck is involved, just ask Wes Matthews.
I am not a New Yorker, so I am objective on Jeremy’s game. I always root for the underdog, not dogs like UNC’s Graves or Ginyard, who both would be average Big EAst wing options.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:41 am
40 cal says:
Did you watch him have 38 today? Cough” fir” Cough” rou” Cough, kinda cold outside.
December 30th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Trevor Kapp says:
funk- i think ginyard fits the role better than hazell would. ginyard locks up about as well as anyone in the country. and the team could really use any shooter, ideally not a guy who’s gonna need 20 shots. it could be andy rautins, xavier henry, even ben hansbrough- just someone who can knock down shots.
and cal, he had 38 on 31 shot attempts with only two assists. i think it’s too tough to gauge how good this guy is because of the team he’s playing on. he can definitely score the ball, but how well does he do other things? how much better does he make this teammates? the same questions i have for rosario at rutgers (just ask ali.)
jodie meeks went for 35 or more six different times last year, including 54 at tennessee and 45 at arkansas. and he was a second round pick!! there’s no way hazell is better than him.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Kenny Patt says:
I think Cabbie’s gonna have a solid NBA Career. The guys he’s playing with now are not that good, but ive noticed that he makes a better effort to pass the ball this year. Also his mid range and drive the ball game is much improved. I think he has potential to be a factor in the L one day.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
40 cal says:
We have a long NCAA season ahead of us fellas don’t forget that.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
fan says:
Mr Kapp
I’d hate for you to be my GM or coach. You just don’t get it. Jodie Meeks is a terrible N.B.A. player worse than JJ Redick. The only reason he made the league was his scoring outburst at a big time program. The only reason Scottie Reynolds is considered a N.B.A. player is because Jay Wright has inside connections & he scored 40 points his freshman yr mind you agaisnt NC or Uconn. Therefore it made more relevant.
Hazell is putting big #’s up against to pretty good teams that are ranked. Syracuse has arguably the best zone in the country. It’s not easy to score against. I didn’t watch the game as I have to catch today on DVR. Remember FG’s don’t tell you much. You could be rimming out or double & triple teamed the whole game. Seton Hall is good but not better than the Cuse & could have beat them. Harvey has to step up and lead this team from the PG position. What’s so bad about a volume shooter. They only do that due to their teams talent.
Ginyard couldn’t play let alone start in the Big East today. Danny Green couldn’t score 20 points at Island Gardent that day. He can’t dribble,shoot,pass,jump & he’s lightskin. LOL. Your arguments and views are why the talent pool will always be diluted. Who are your favorite players in the league. I could see your not a fan of supremely talented players. You rather those role players that fit a mold & play robotic style games. Do whatever the coach ask of them & just collect a check on the bench of the N.B.A. for being a good guy. That good will never do anything for a N.B.A. roster. There’s to many of them in the league already. The ACC lately has been very overrated to me as well. Remember all the analysts went to ACC schools so of course who do you think gets more pub.
Mike Rosario is a pro. Has a very similar game to Curry. Hopefully he’s lucky enough to have a run like Curry or know someone who could get him drafted. Namely a powerful agent or someone with inside ties. It’s funny how the right phone call or link could get a bum in the league & keep a legitimate player from even sniffing the league. Let alone the D League. There’s some players in the D League who weren’t even the 3rd option on their respective college team. Just survey the talent in the D League. It might be more political than the league. Mikki Moore & whoever else you guys advertise. I respect Azukuke,Bynum,Smush Parker & a few others. These other call ups you guys do every yr. Give me a break. Why do you think people could care less about the D League. They’re already fed up not seeing they’re favorite players who could all last in the league for the most part. Not making it& having to watch a guy like Chris Duhon who I just HATE.
Lastly if Hazell went to UNC or Kansas he too would be a lottery pick. We’re judging of talent. You really believe Ginyard & Green would score like Hazell. They wouldn’t combined. No it isn’t a NY bias it’s the hate people like you give to NY ballers. Go somewhere it’s tired a bothersome. You would make a great analyst or scout for the Knicks & all the other sub par teams. You think just like them. I could hear you know telling me how great the Duke team is or how good the NC team. Nobody on that roster is going to make a splash in the N.B.A. They’ll make it because they have to. Judging on talent alone they suck.
You even see Roy Williams keeping Dexter Strickland back a la Edgar Sosa. Why even recruit kid if you’re going to do that to their game. It’s like asking a passive kid to go out there & just shoot the ball. Be agressive and attack. I’m not even sure why I still watch both the N.B.A. or college. The talent has dropped drastically & it’s in a recession of real ballers. It’s been declining as a whole for a while.
December 30th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Elliot Rosado says:
I just want to see Cabbie get 40 and win a game. Look at Wes Johnson last night 20pts. 13 in the 2nd half to go along with 19 rebounds. Who do you think NBA scouts were more impressed with? I’m sorry Fan but Cabbie must be your man or something
December 30th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
fan says:
@Elliott
It’s funny. No don’t even know him. Seen him play a few times. I’ve worked out and played with pros & compare his game to theirs. I also base it on the talent in the L & how in a open court with better talent he’d benefit. It’s my strong opinion. For the most part I hate most NBA scouts I think they’re one of the main problems with the L. They want everyone else to fix their mishaps. Pick real talent & the fans,coaches,cities & teams reap the benefits. Scouts continue to be wrong yearly. I actually wish I was a scout because I could almost guarantee 2 things. We’d be a young an exciting team or a team equally meshed with young/vets & win. Most scouts follow media hype & the analysts. If this guy says your a pro then so be. If he doesn’t you better get ready for across seas. It’s a joke. Who judges Stern’s job or Blake’s job. What if they’re doing a piss poor job. Then what.
I blame 2 people David Stern & Marty Blake & he’s even grooming his son for the takeover(WOW). They have the most control & say so over who is drafted & given a fair chance to succeed. If your the greatest thing walking & Stern doesn’t like you or where your from or stand for. Sorry bud it ain’t going to happen. If you’re fortunate to come from a sturdy parenting situation or family. Say & do all the right things in the league’s eye and can’t play ball a lick. You stand a better chance at making or at least playing on a summer league roster every yr or wasting people’s time in the D League. It’s set up the way they want it. They don’t want it to be a very talented/competitive league overall. They don’t seem to want NY to contend for anything anymore. The Hip Hop teams or those associated with to much flash & whatever it is they call it are typecasted & blackballed from winning or being successful.
Just take a look a summer league rosters & the D league and tell who’s in charge of that nonsense. Seriously the names I see on these rosters I laugh at. The whole system just can’t be taken seriously. It’s gotten totally away from just sheer talent. If they couldn’t make so much from the N.B.A. it wouldn’t even exist. They could care less about the players. The players themselves are fed up & just do it now for the money. They can’t & wont conform until the big wigs change & accept or understand a broader aspect than just $$$ & business.
I also laugh at the fact Hazell & Sam Young’s age is always brought up in argument. When there isn’t any mention of Tyler Hansborough being 23 or 24 rookie and still a role player at most. Greatest Tar Heel in History(Record Books). LMAO. It has more to do with him staying all 4 years because he had to. Let the analyst tell you & you’d think he’s going to blossom into something special. What is his story? Did he go the Juco route or prep school?. LOL
December 30th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
fan says:
Also did you know Wes Johnson name before he got to Syracuse & they beat a nationally ranked team & got ranked themselves. NO. My case is made. Know he’s a household name & on radar. If he stayed at Iowa State & did more he may not have even made it overseas.
December 30th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
fan says:
^^^I know for certain those great N.B.A. scouts didnt ^^^
December 30th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
funkalot says:
Yeah, I have to agree with Fan on this debate. You can not penalize a player for overcompensating due to inferior talent surrounding him. A player must do what ever is necessary to put his team in the best position to win.
I cite the following examples: Wilt Chamberlain with the Philly Warriors and his conversion with the both the 76ers and Lakers, Pearl Monroe with the Bullets and then with the Knicks, Kobe (pre-Gasol), Mike (pre-Scottie). They were all “volume” shooters/scorers, but when ample armament to contend, they all melded their skills, for the team’s sake.
Remember: this game is about putting the ball in the hoop. Some players are specialist, they score, or play D or rebound or block shots. Cabbie is a scorer deluxe. There is a premium on dude who can do that consistently.
Do we malign: Reggie Miller, Ice gervin, Alex English, Bernard King, World Free, David Thompson, Andre Toney, Pete Maravich, Glen Rice, Dale Ellis and others who were purely scorers and not known for passing or even playing top notch D? The answer is obvious, “NO”.
Cabbie is what he is, a scorer deluxe. Let us, just enjoy him.
Trevor,
Wait till next year when Harrison Barnes and Reggie Bullock play on the wings and see how different Carolina plays and how their fortunes rise because they have consistent wing scoring. Ginyard and Green without Ellington would mean no Chip for UNC last Year. Wake up Son!
December 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Elliot Rosado says:
@ Fan, if you were a GM for an N.B.A. team they would probably be called the underdogs, But you never answered my question. Who were the NBA scouts impressed more my, Cabbie or Wes Johnson?
December 30th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
fan says:
That question doesn’t really warrant an answer from me. Also it depends on which scout & what they are looking for? My underdog team would fair better than most & would be a breath of fresh air to the league or wherever they played. I’d probably try to embarass the team you assemble to prove a point to you.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Trevor Kapp says:
i’m completely with elliot on this. and funk, no doubt carolina wouldn’t have won if it didn’t have ellington. every team can use a shooter, but ellington was a perfect system guy. hazell wants shots.
also, roy isn’t holding dexter strickland back. he’s shifted dexter to the point, which is a great thing for him. if dexter’s gonna make the league, it’s not gonna be as a 2. dexter isn’t a natural point, and it’s gonna take time for him to learn the position. larry drew II is a natural point and has done a decent job this year. will graves starts over dexter cause he can knock down shots. so naturally, roy would rather have a true point and a shooter out there over a freshman who is neither. fellas, i go to the school. i’ve seen them play enough. dexter loves roy.
and i disagree with people knocking danny green. green was a perfect system guy. he didn’t have lawson’s speed or ellington’s j, but he did the little things that helped the team win. he grabbed boards, he played d, he shot great percentages. and he still managed to put up 14 a game. remember, he was second team all acc last year, not ellington.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Trevor Kapp says:
fan- i respect you, but your points aren’t too logical. scottie reynolds has been great for four years at a big-time program. he’s been unbelievably clutch and led the team to the final four last year. how can you possibly say he’s only an nba prospect based on a performance as a freshman?
also, what teams in the big east wouldn’t ginyard start for? maybe syracuse or west virginia, but that’s about it. you don’t think coaches want a fifth year senior who’s been to the final four and locks up and can knock down open shots?
as for my favorite players, in the nba i like brandon roy and ben gordon. college, i like jon scheyer, sherron collins, jerome randle, matt bouldin, sylven landbesberg and lazar hayward.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Randy Millard says:
Jeremy Hazell is a good player holding his own in the Big East. He can get his 30+ games but the Ws matter. In that WVU vs Seton Hall game, Hazell may have scored the most points but Da’Sean Butler did his thing which is nothing new.
If Jeremy Hazell would have attend UNC, he would’ve been a slasher and defender. Roy Williams is not letting him shoot like he does at Seton Hall.
I think he can play in the league but understand, he’s a senior and losing all of these tough games are not going in W column.Scouts are looking at what can he do.Everyone know he can score and play defense but can he WIN? Seton Hall is a contender in the Big East.
December 31st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
funkalot says:
Randy,
He is only a Junior, as it just seems he has been around for awhile. He will get better and possibly make it to the top of next years draft.
Wins do not matter if you can play. There is an emphasis on ability versus transcendence. See Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Jamal Crawford, Steven Jackson, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Karl Malone , ah you get the point.
Pete Maravich’s LSU squads did not win much, but I do not hear people referencing that or that he was a high volume shooter as negatives while he was a college phenom. Quite the opposite, he was revered for what he did best, which was scoring the ball. So why the hate on Jeremy. Again I think you guys miss the major point, which is he is following his coach’s orders. As maniacal as Booby Gonzalez is, if he did not cosign Jeremy’s play, Jeremy would not play that way. The kid is not selfish!
Winning in college means very little while evaluating talent for the League. In some cases being a part of a winning program does matter, see Danny Green, Shavlik Randolph, David Noel, Josh McRoberts and many other questionable Heels and Dukies, who have somehow earned a spot in the NBA.
December 31st, 2009 at 5:36 pm
The Brooklyn Report says:
He’s only a junior which is a plus. Scottie Pippen,Dennis Rodman,Steven Jackson,Charles Barkley,John Stockton and Karl Malone has received some hardware. Hazell is missing one player on his Seton Hall team to help him score.They have like 8 guards. I’m not hating on Hazell ’cause I seen him tear up summer leagues. I just can’t stand the 30+ and 40+ games he has when they lose.Other coaches would make him play totally “different”.
Being a Dukie and a Tar Heel is a automatic NBA Draft Pick.
I just can’t stomach his 30+ performances in loses. They hurt
December 31st, 2009 at 7:06 pm
40 cal says:
That is the one thing that is killing him right now, someone on his team has to step up and help take a load off of his shoulders! I have seen a half dozen passes where he would give the ball up off of the double team and whoever he passes to just cant hit the jumper, what I like about Seton Hall is they are a very scrappy team on the offensive glass but someone has to step up and hit jumpers and on the defensive end they look like they need to communicate better as a team.
January 1st, 2010 at 3:35 pm
eyes says:
Seton hall has a lot of talent & should have had Mike Glover as well. Way 2 go Ncaa for the kids. They’re problem is they have no Pg out of all the guards they have. Nothing comes easy. It’s amazing how bad it is. We don’t see the 2 most important positions in the game. PG’S & Centers. We’ve also lost the shooting guard. They’re all scoring guards & tweeners. Just by looking at the L u could see the negative trickle affect it’s had on basketball period.
Also is it a players fault he isnt ready to produce in the L or the incompetent scout or team personnel who selects him ?
I also just watched the game & saw a player wth NBA Range who could no more to help his team win. I’m pretty sure the hate & opinions come from checking stats or ESPN because most scouts just keep up wth nationally ranked teams or hear say. Hazell has Jr Smith game changing ability & range. Not as athletic but similar stroke when hot.
Honarble mention:
Anthony Mason Jr. (Streak shooter like hazell & smith but 6′8″
Justin Burell (Pro body & can be Chris Wilcox or Maxiell)
Dwight Hardy & Lance Stephenson along wth Hazell are some of the best scorers & players in college basketball. More talented than a lot of players ranked ahead of them & on the politically & favored draft board.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:47 am
Broadwaybully4 says:
Three new York cats you should look out for when they get to college is Anthony foy out of Harlem one of the best point guards I’ve seen in a long time, also Deron lamb from Brooklyn reminds of Paul peirce the kid always finds away to score, then there was Jabari hinds , this kid is super athletic and plays with a chip on his shoulder