Check out this trailer for the upcoming Founding Fathers documentary which questions much of the history that we have been taught about Hip Hop’s foundation. It’s very intriguing, and the clip ends on one of my favorite breakbeats of all-time, Babe Ruth’s “The Mexican.”
So, what do you think? Does history need to be re-written? How much of it can be proven factually? In whatever case, these Queens and Brooklyn DJs will soon be getting their due. Trying to figure out who indeed was first could be a never-ending quest, but let all who were there contributing get their dap. Word.
I saw this a few weeks ago.. Apparently, back then it was all about who had the real sound systems.. I guess thats why Poet was so adamant about it on his joint with Noel Rockwell “Beat You Down”. He was saying how the dudes from the BX were using house speakers and the Queens dudes were rocking bass bottoms and jbl tweeters..
Side note, I know everyone always talks about Shan and KRS, but I thought Poet ended all that beef with “Beat You Down”. However, I heard Just Ice went out to QB looking for Poet and Poet found out about it and bounced.. Can’t say I blame him tho. Not sure of that is true or not.
Most of the records released in those days were from The Bronx and Harlem cats. The most popular BBoys were from the Bx & Uptown. Most of the top writers were from Manhattan and the Bx. Hum… I guess Bklyn & Queens (and the rest of the world) have had a great influence but The Bronx has had the most and first HIP HOP superstars: Bambaataaa, Herc, Flash, Cold Crush… AND the first big true all-around HIP HOP hangouts: Fever & Bronx River Center. Boogie down is still numero 1 as far as I’m concerned (whether or not The Bronx started it all).
props to everyone out there that deserves them, no matter what the borough or country. bambaataa has to be given ultimate respect always for really bringing the movement together and extending it to the rest of the world. that’s not to take away from any brooklyn or queens contributors, though. it’s just like when people call crazy legs and ken swift of rock steady pioneers. they’d be the first to tell you that there were all these dudes like ***** twins, spy and trac 2 who were killin’ it way before them, they were just the ones who got it exposed globally. i look forward to the founding fathers doc, no doubt.
The documentary is about R&B and Disco DJs and the sound systems they used to rock with in Queens and Brooklyn. Very good. But it’s not Hip Hop. They should be celebrated for their contribution to the party scene of the ’60s and ’70s. Just don’t lie about the history of Hip Hop Culture.
Peace.
A-tone
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January 11th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Chris says:
I saw this a few weeks ago.. Apparently, back then it was all about who had the real sound systems.. I guess thats why Poet was so adamant about it on his joint with Noel Rockwell “Beat You Down”. He was saying how the dudes from the BX were using house speakers and the Queens dudes were rocking bass bottoms and jbl tweeters..
Side note, I know everyone always talks about Shan and KRS, but I thought Poet ended all that beef with “Beat You Down”. However, I heard Just Ice went out to QB looking for Poet and Poet found out about it and bounced.. Can’t say I blame him tho. Not sure of that is true or not.
Happy New Year Bob..
January 11th, 2009 at 11:59 am
BBOY 82 says:
Most of the records released in those days were from The Bronx and Harlem cats. The most popular BBoys were from the Bx & Uptown. Most of the top writers were from Manhattan and the Bx. Hum… I guess Bklyn & Queens (and the rest of the world) have had a great influence but The Bronx has had the most and first HIP HOP superstars: Bambaataaa, Herc, Flash, Cold Crush… AND the first big true all-around HIP HOP hangouts: Fever & Bronx River Center. Boogie down is still numero 1 as far as I’m concerned (whether or not The Bronx started it all).
January 11th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Bobbito Garcia a.k.a. Kool Bob Love says:
props to everyone out there that deserves them, no matter what the borough or country. bambaataa has to be given ultimate respect always for really bringing the movement together and extending it to the rest of the world. that’s not to take away from any brooklyn or queens contributors, though. it’s just like when people call crazy legs and ken swift of rock steady pioneers. they’d be the first to tell you that there were all these dudes like ***** twins, spy and trac 2 who were killin’ it way before them, they were just the ones who got it exposed globally. i look forward to the founding fathers doc, no doubt.
January 11th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
BBOY 82 says:
TRUE. Mad respect to anyone that has been part of Hip Hop history. ESPECIALLY to the original BBOYS in NYC, Italy and Paris.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:37 am
Carlito Roc TCK Krew says:
Basically it seems like these Disco era DJ’s want credit for “inspiring” Hip Hop. Gtfoh.
Most bboys and street kids couldnt even get into the ritzy disco parties, which was a major reason why Hip Hop was formed in the first place.
Also, why are they talking about sound systems that predate the Bronx by 5 years for? Jamaican sound systems predate them by like 20 years.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 am
Dres says:
Grandmaster Flowers and those other cats were Disco Dj’s.
I know cats in BK who give the BX it’s props for starting Hip Hop.
Just like Carlito said, Street kids were tired of the whole Disco scene and Herc and them came out and changed things forever.
March 12th, 2009 at 2:13 am
A-tone, the Hip Hop Historian says:
The documentary is about R&B and Disco DJs and the sound systems they used to rock with in Queens and Brooklyn. Very good. But it’s not Hip Hop. They should be celebrated for their contribution to the party scene of the ’60s and ’70s. Just don’t lie about the history of Hip Hop Culture.
Peace.
A-tone