Comments on: The Playground Gave Us Sugar

By: luca bollina from bologna italy

luca bollina from bologna italy — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:27:19 +0000

i saw this man playing for my favourite teamin bologna from 88 to 91,and i had a little conversation with him…i saw basketball since 30 yrs ago,i”ll neverfind the rifght word to describe his greatness on the court.Thank you ,Sugar,you gave a moooore excting youth,during those clumsy italian 80’s.aAll the best to you

By: illest

illest — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:38:02 +0000

yes. i know its easy to compare them.

By: ali

ali — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:14:48 +0000

illest,

was dominique better than vince, in your opinion?

By: ali

ali — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:12:41 +0000

funk,

i’ll ask pearl and steve burtt what the name of that team was. they went up to play the mccray brothers and ray and gus up in some tourney in mount vernon.

By: illest

illest — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:31:52 +0000

he is a future hall of famer. i know he will get in. but when i have watched vinces career i dont feel and say vince is a hall of famer. its a feeling. (except for his first few years) like for example i know bernard king is. i know artis gilmore is. id rather have andrew toney than vince but toney will never get in and doesnt have the numbers like vince. i cant always go by the numbers. and i cant indict someone to endorse someone else. i know the numbers and all star appearances. hes not clutch. doesnt always take the big shot. hes a soft player. to leave to go graduate during a game 7 is crazy. you think the top players of all time would do that? his focus wasnt totally on the game. now….i realize he still took the last shot to win and missed. but you are leaving a room for skepticism when you do that type of thing.

By: funkalot

funkalot — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:54:40 +0000

Ali,

What was the name of the team you referenced with the greatest assemblage of talent that I can remember: Pearl, Steve Burtt, Richie “the animal” Adams,Walter Berry, Easy Ed Pinckney and Gary Springer. That squad could have won an NCAA chip. NYC was loaded from ‘80 to ‘82 with talent, with the additions of: Eugene “Beetle” Washington, Jerry “Ice” Reynolds, Chris Mullin, John Salley, Kenny Hutchinson and Kenny Patterson, to name a few.

Illest,

Vince will be a Hall of Famer, similar to Dominque, for mystique and eventual nos. Remember, he is only in his 11th season and conservatively giving him 1500 pts a season for the next four, will place him in the top 20-25 scorers all time in the “L”. Plus,he is an 8-time All-Star, has averaged over 25p, 7r and 5 dimes in the playoffs, 1999 Rookie of the Year, Olympic Gold Medalist and Dunk contest winner. Also, he is owner of the universally acknowledged greatest play/dunk ever, with the leap over Frederic Weis.

Just food/stats for thought.

By: ali

ali — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:46:14 +0000

hey illest,

why isn’t vince a hall of fame player? he’s definitely not the force of nature he once was at this point in time, but overall, why do you think he falls short?

By: illest

illest — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:34:02 +0000

vince is a future hofamer but not a hall of fame player.

By: ali

ali — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:36:28 +0000

yeah funk,

clinton ‘74 is tough to beat, as well as mount vernon ‘71.

how about the best playground backcourts. i liked erik barkley and kareem reid, as well as steph and skip. i know pee wee and the destroyer probably get the nod, but pearl and steve burtt was ill. they ran together with walter berry, the animal, ed pinkney, gary springer at a few tourney’s.

By: funkalot

funkalot — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:46:26 +0000

Fellas,

For NYC high school backcourts consider the following:

Clinton ‘64 – Nate “Tiny” Archibald (UTEP/Pro HOF) and Willie Worsley (Point guard Texas Western University/”Glory Road” Movie)
Note: Texas Western would become UTEP and Willie helped to steer Nate there.

Clinton ‘74 – Butch Lee (Marquette/Olympics/LA Lakers), Ricky Sobers (UNLV/Phoenix Suns) and Arnold Dugger (Oral Roberts/Rucker)

Jackson ‘85 – Greg “Boo” Harvey and Lloyd “Swee Pea” Daniels.

Mount Vernon ‘71 – Gus Williams (USC/NBA), Earl Tatum (Marquette/NBA) and Ray Williams (Minnesota/NBA).

Pro add ons: Drexler-Porter and future HOFs J-Kidd and In-vince- ible Carter.

Funk on!